B.C. Premier Christy Clark speaks with the media during a break at the First Ministers and National Indigenous Leaders Meeting in Ottawa, Friday December 9, 2016. For a brief moment last Friday, it looked like B.C. Premier Christy Clark might scuttle Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s hopes of emerging from a day-long first ministers meeting with a pan-Canadian framework agreement to combat climate change. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld by Joan Bryden, The Canadian Press Posted Dec 16, 2016 5:30 am MDT Last Updated Dec 16, 2016 at 9:40 am MDT AddThis Sharing ButtonsShare to TwitterTwitterShare to FacebookFacebookShare to RedditRedditShare to 電子郵件Email Some baloney to Clark’s claim B.C. will pay twice as much for carbon as Ontario OTTAWA – “You can’t have a national carbon tax where the westerners who produce the energy are paying double what the people in central Canada are paying to use the energy, in terms of an additional carbon tax.” — British Columbia Premier Christy Clark, outside a first ministers meeting, Dec. 9, 2016.For a brief moment last Friday, it looked like B.C. Premier Christy Clark might scuttle Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s hopes of emerging from a day-long first ministers meeting with a pan-Canadian framework agreement to combat climate change.The sticking point was her insistence that Ontario and Quebec’s cap-and-trade market must impose a price on carbon emissions equivalent to provinces, such as B.C., that choose to impose a carbon tax.On the face of it, there was no disputing Clark’s assertion that within five years, carbon-taxing provinces will be paying twice as much Ontario and Quebec.And so, in a last-minute concession to mollify Clark, Trudeau agreed to have an independent expert panel evaluate the carbon pricing regime in 2020, when the rest of the country will have theoretically caught up to the $30 per tonne of emissions that is already imposed by British Columbia.But environmental economists say it’s misleading and simplistic to compare only the price per tonne of emissions under the two very different methods of pricing carbon.Spoiler alert: The Canadian Press Baloney Meter is a dispassionate examination of political statements culminating in a ranking of accuracy on a scale of “no baloney” to “full of baloney” (complete methodology below).This one earns a ranking of “some baloney” — Clark’s assertion is partly accurate but important details are missing.THE FACTSB.C. currently imposes a carbon tax of $30 per tonne of emissions. Alberta will follow suit in the new year, with a $20 per tonne levy, rising to $30 per tonne in 2018.That’s consistent with Trudeau’s climate agreement, under which provinces must impose either a carbon tax or adopt a cap-and-trade system by 2018. In those that don’t (Saskatchewan is likely to be the only hold-out), the federal government will unilaterally impose a carbon price, starting at $10 per tonne in 2018 and rising by $10 each year to $50 per tonne in 2022.Hence, in 2020, the national price on carbon will be $30 per tonne — the same as B.C. and Alberta.Quebec’s carbon market is currently trading permits for about $8 per tonne and is forecast to rise to $16 per tonne once Ontario fully joins Quebec and California in the Western Climate Initiative — in other words, roughly half what westerners will be paying.So, in that sense, “there is some truth” to Clark’s assertion that westerners in energy-producing provinces will be paying twice as much as central Canadians, says Ottawa University environmental economist Nicholas Rivers, who holds the Canada research chair in climate and energy policy.But that’s only part of a very complicated story.“It’s a bit misleading to compare these two systems just on that metric,” Rivers says.To understand why, one needs to understand how the two systems work.A carbon tax is relatively straightforward: a levy is imposed by government on all or some carbon emitters for every tonne of emissions they produce. That levy is passed on to consumers in the form of increased prices for things like fuel.In a cap-and-trade system, the market decides the price on carbon, which is also passed on to consumers.As Rivers explains it, under cap-and-trade a government imposes a quota or cap on the amount of emissions it will allow and issues permits for those allowable emissions. Because there’s a limited number of permits, they acquire a value in the market as companies trade permits among themselves.That value will depend on how stringent the emissions cap is. The lower the quota, the fewer the permits that are issued and, therefore, the higher their value becomes on the market.THE EXPERTSThe objective of Trudeau’s pan-Canadian agreement is to meet a national target of reducing carbon emissions by 30 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030, while giving premiers the flexibility to choose which method of carbon pricing is best suited to their individual provinces.Because Ontario and Quebec have taken other policy steps to reduce emissions — such as Ontario’s phase-out of coal-fired power plants, which Ontario consumers are also paying for in the form of skyrocketing electricity bills — Rivers says their emissions are on the way down. As a result, they can adopt a cap-and-trade system in which permits are relatively plentiful and, therefore, relatively cheap and still meet the emission reduction target.Clark is free to adopt cap-and-trade for B.C. if she really thinks it’s a less onerous way to price carbon. But she won’t because it would actually wind up costing British Columbians more than the existing carbon tax, Rivers adds.“The reason she doesn’t is that emissions in B.C. are growing much faster than they are in the rest of Canada and if she did adopt a cap-and-trade plan in B.C., it would actually result in a higher carbon price,” he says.“The other way to look at it is regions where emissions are growing really fast need…a stronger policy to reduce emissions than regions where emissions are not growing so fast.”Dave Sawyer, president of EnviroEconomics, says the carbon price in each province will be the result of policy choices made by each government. And the bottom line is that: “Ontario and Quebec have designed a system to generate more (emission) reductions at cheaper cost.”If Clark is worried about competitiveness, he argues that B.C. already has the legislative architecture in place to shield its big industrial emitters from the full impact of the carbon tax, in effect emulating Ontario and Quebec’s cap and trade system.THE VERDICTRivers says Clark’s assertion is “missing a lot of context” and ignores the fact that Ontario and Quebec “have got all these other policies in place that are costing Ontarians and Quebecers” but which won’t be reflected in the carbon price set by their cap-and-trade market.On the face of it, Sawyer says, “Sure, it looks like B.C. is going to be paying let’s say one third more by 2020.” But he adds, “there are choices that the British Columbia government has made that’s going to increase the cost on their business that Ontario hasn’t made.“So it’s not such a simple comparison.”For these reasons, Clark’s assertion scores a rating of “some baloney.”METHODOLOGYThe Baloney Meter is a project of The Canadian Press that examines the level of accuracy in statements made by politicians. Each claim is researched and assigned a rating based on the following scale:No baloney — the statement is completely accurate.A little baloney — the statement is mostly accurate but more information is required.Some baloney — the statement is partly accurate but important details are missing.A lot of baloney — the statement is mostly inaccurate but contains elements of truth.Full of baloney — the statement is completely inaccurate.Note to readers: This is a corrected story. An earlier version said the national price on carbon would be $30 per tonne in five years.